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The 2012 National Defense Authorization Bill has gotten some attention recently, though not nearly as much as the wrangling over payroll tax cut extension. Bear with me, there’s gear news in here. People are not upset about what’s in the bill (S.1867), but what’s not in the bill. There was language in an early draft of the bill that explicitly protected American citizens from another portion of the bill that authorized detention of America’s enemies by the military. Somewhere along the way, the bill was amended and this language adding protection to U.S. citizens was struck from the bill.

Protectors of civil liberties were enraged and news reports circulated and opinions were formed. I’m not going to get into the politics, but as I said, there is actual gear news in here.

Since the NDAA is the blueprint for next year’s military spending, many companies’ profits are staked to its passage. Surefire among them. 99%ers and hackers have taken up the call and are threatening all kinds of action against those whom they perceive were involved. Surefire, along with AAC, won what could be a healthy portion of government’s suppressor business (it’s an IDIQ contract), so portions of the Internet see them as supporting the idea that Americans can be indefinitely detained by U.S. military forces.

The DoD is buying a lot of gear and Surefire isn’t alone in getting lumped in with supporters of the bill, Honeywell and Bluewater Defense were also called out. Surefire felt strongly enough to draft a response, which I’ve included below.

Statement from Surefire:

We’ve been made aware of various articles pertaining to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and SureFire’s alleged role as a lobbyist and/or financial supporter of the bill and its primary political backer, Sen. Robert Portman. The news reports are using our associations with a Political Action Committee (PAC), a former consulting group, and a government contract to infer that we support indefinite military detention of American citizens without charge or trial. These reports are false and misleading. Our association with this bill has nothing to do with citizens’ rights and SureFire is now the casualty of a disregard for sound journalism.

We’ve never supported the removal of citizens’ rights let alone do we have any connection with those responsible for the injustice. Any news outlet alleging SureFire’s support of anti-American rights, is reporting lies. SureFire’s support of unrelated parts of the NDAA does not constitute support for every part of the bill like those that are now being contested.

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Surefire P2X Fury flashlight. PHOTO: Rob Curtis/staff
The Surefire P2X Fury is here. Aluminum bodied with 2 brightness modes of 15/500 lumens. 46/1.5hrs runtime on two CR123 batteries for a street price of $155. It just started shipping to dealers this week.

I’ll have more on this light shortly, but I dare say given the price, feature set and pedigree, this might be the best tactical utility light available today.

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For your viewing pleasure, GearScout presents the inner workings of the Surefire 60 round magazine. We got ours in the mail today and the first thing we did was take it apart. Holy crap. Once the first spring came out I began having a flashback to the first time I rebuilt a carburetor. My fears were allayed, however by following the included directions everything went back together without a hitch.

I’ll get to the range with the 60rnder shortly, but in the meantime enjoy being among the first to see the naked magazine.

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…because hell just froze over! The loooooooooooooong awaited Surefire UB3T Invictus just showed up at GearScout HQ. I have to say it looks like it was worth the wait. We haven’t gotten any further than the unboxing, but it’ll get a good look shortly.

Here’s a peek and some specs to hold you over ’till we can do it up right for you:

  • 8 to 800 lumens in 7 steps.
  • Strobe.
  • SOS modes.
  • Runs for almost 2 hours on 3 CR123s.
  • Has a LED battery indicator.
  • Two stage switch, so full power is only a hard press of the tailcap away.
  • It’s damned expensive.
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Hey guys- head over to our Facebook page to get in on a free set of Surefire EP-3 earplugs. We’re giving away a set to 5 winners. Just “Like” us and then like the EP-3 EarPro photo and you’re entered to win. Thanks!

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Surefire shared some hot footage of a 100 round High Capacity Magazine function test with us. They ran 5 100-round mags back-to-back turning an M4 gas tube into a light bulb in the process. Don’t try this with your own, stock AR, though. They used a heavy-barrel, select-fire milspec Colt with a beefed up gas tube to deal with the extreme heat produced by 500 rounds of continuous fire. Watch it glow. Try this with your AR and you’ll watch the gas tube melt.

As far as the ship date of the new mags, Surefire representative Ron Canfield tells us the company has delayed both models if the HCM to make minor changes to the mags to guarantee they function in the broadest number of AR platforms possible. The new ship date is June 30, 2011.

Tolerances vary widely across the spectrum of AR manufactures and while Surefire’s current design works fine in milspec Colt rifles, it runs less reliably in some commercial ARs.

The best we can figure is that the HCM, being based on the USGI service mag, works just fine with M4 and M16 rifles that adhere to Colt’s technology package. Commercial M4 Rifle manufacturers that deviate at all from the spec present a problem for the HCM because they are already using a steeper, M4 style feed ramp (M4 feed ramps are steeper than older M16 feed ramps). Some of these guns also cycle faster and harder which lead to a condition called bullet bounce. I witnessed this firsthand at SHOT Show 2011 when I shot the SF HCM in a brand new LMT rifle that was running a little faster than a milspec Colt M4. At first, I thought the gun was short-stroking, but it turns out it was a case of bullet bounce. Somewhere around round 60 on the second mag, the LMT stopped with the bolt carrier held up about an inch from it’s fully seated position. We switched over to a Colt M4 and carried on through 3 more 100 round mags without a stoppage.

Bullet bounce happens when the top bullet in the magazine is upset as it’s fed. The tip of the bullet hits the steeper M4 feed ramp and bounces back instead of sliding smoothly up and into the chamber. In some fast/hard cycling guns, this can cause bullet setback (the bullet gets pushed back into the casing, reducing OAL)  which will turn into a partial bolt override when the shortened round fails to feed. To prevent bullet bounce, Surefire is likely adjusting the lips on the HCM to feed a little more smoothly. This jives with what I was told by Mr. Canfield when he told me, “we’re adjusting the ribs at the top of the magazine to make it compatible with more commercial ARs.”

The most obvious follow-on question for Surefire is why not use this tactical pause to address compatibility with Heckler & Koch’s peculiar HK416/M27 IAR magazine well? The H&K magazine well is a little longer and a little tighter than the milspec package. The sides of the HCM flare where the quad stack is throated down to a double stack. The top of this flare is positioned low enough to allow the mag to work with a standard mag well; but the flare prevents the mag from seating in H&Ks deeper mag well. Further, H&Ks mag well is dimensioned a few thousand’s smaller internally which makes a snug fit for a service mag, and a dangerously tight, non-dropfree fit for any continuous-curve designed mag like a PMAG or the HCM.

Aftermarket designs take advantage of the larger volume of the milspec mag well to increase feed reliability. These mags are tight in the H&K, can’t engage the mag catch and will fall out. (This is why Magpul made the EMAG. It’s pared down externally and the depth stop is lowered compared to a PMAG to allow the mag to go deeper in the mag well.)

Canfield explains the scope of work and leaves the door open for a more changes. He tells me “the current SureFire HCM is designed to fit and function reliably in STANAG 4179 mag wells. Because a mag well isn’t the only part of the rifle that affects how well the mag will feed and to ensure reliability with as many platforms as possible, we’re making design changes to account for the differences in the unprecedented amount of M4/M16-style rifles in production. The HK mag well is a different spec that we don’t intend to address with this design modification.”

It’s clear from the video and my own trigger time that the HCM feeds rounds to a milspec M4 like it’s breastfeeding its own leadthirsty spawn. So, Surefire is doing whats right by the AR crowd; making sure the mag works in more than just rifles fielded by the DoD. Plenty of law enforcement agencies run rifles made by companies other than Colt (or FNH). Holding back production ’till the mag proves itself in a variety of M4 style platforms will hold things up a bit, but it will be worth it in the end.

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Surefire showed a few things to us at the range day. The first was their new .22 supressor. Surefire reports they are getting 113db of measured sound. The marshmellow shooter will come in two versions; a lightweight aluminum can optimized for pistols and a steel version that is designed to hold up to use on a rifle. They are designated 22s for steel and 22A for aluminum. The 22A weighs in at a industry leading 2.25 oz, barely more than an empty soda can. The 22S, high temperature painted black steel, and 22A, Type III anodized black aluminum, will MSRP for $499 and $439, respectively.

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Surfire put up a video last night showing their new 60 and 100 round magazines in action. They show reserve Marine (and Surefire employee) Corporal Greg Linn rolling through 200 rounds first with 30 rounds mags and then using 2 100 rounds mags. It took him 37.51 seconds and a whole lot of reloading and time off target to get to 200. Using the Surfire hi-cap the time was reduced to 18.50 seconds. The time difference is impressive, but look at the amount of muzzle control he was able to maintain when he could get into his firing stance and stay there, uninterrupted for those 100 round bursts. I’d say that accuracy improvement is just as almost as valuable as the diminished reloading time.

Surefire filmed a group of the most well-kitted out operators you’ve ever seen encountering an ambush in the desert. Even if they were firing blanks (and wearing non-ballistic helmets, look for the Ops-Core Base Jump) they still showed a few things about how the hi-cap mags works in the field. Going prone on uneven ground with the 100-rounder looked mildly awkward. It showed having that much firepower on tap is certainly worth the slight inconvenience of having to angle a weapon in the prone. For precision shooting, it’s a drag. But, for supressive fire it’s not an issue. And, I didn’t see anyone doing any yoga poses to get lower using the 60-rounder.

The video says everything it needed to say by about 5:00. After that they have Bill Murphy, veteran police officer and Lead Instructor for the Surefire Institute, show the 60 rounder. He related his own experience as a patrolman using mag couplers as an inefficient alternative to something like the High Capacity Magazine. Dean Caputo, former cop, instructor and armorer grins after blowing through 60 rounds of Surefire’s marketing budget without a stoppage.

All good to see, but it’s still a marketing video. We’ll buy into the hype when we have a chance to get our hands on a few production mags.

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Surefire just broke cover on their high capacity magazine project this weekend. They plan to show the magazines at SHOT Show, 2011. Their entry into the magazine market comes in two flavors, 60 and 100 rounds. The MAG5-100, $179, above, looks a bit unwieldy but the MAG5-60, $129, below, looks a lot less intimidating.

UPDATE: SureFire just told us that the HCMs are the result of an entirely new division at SureFire and will be made in a brand new plant in Reno, NV. The new business unit is a partnership with L. James Sullivan and Bob Waterfield of Arm West, LLC. Mr. Sullivan is best known for co-developing the Armalite AR-15/M16 (M16A1) rifle and the original 20-round 5.56mm box magazine. They will be assembled and distributed by SureFire’s new Reno, Nevada, facility, the company’s first venture outside of Southern California, and will initially be available only from authorized SureFire dealers in states without any hi-cap magazine regulations.

Surefire MAG5-60

I spoke with Derek McDonald, Surefire’s VP of Marketing, who called them “anti-ambush mags” because of the uninterrupted firepower they can provide during the critical, first 30 seconds of an ambush. He said, and later wrote in a press release, that “it takes the average soldier about 4 seconds to reload their weapon and reacquire a target. So, based on the rate of fire of a full-auto rifle, using 30-round magazines means a soldier can fire 150 rounds max in 30 seconds. But, with our 60-round mag he can fire 240 rounds in 30 seconds. And, 100-round magazine means about 300 rounds in the same time.”

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Surefire just announced Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division, awarded contracts to supply USSOCOM with three lights.

The first contract, Visible Bright Light-Heavy, is $16.6m worth of Surfire’s crew served weapon mounted Hellfighter light. This is the fourth generation of the Hellfighter which has grown more compact and brighter with each generation. The Hellfighter is designed to mount co-axially on an M2 machine gun, M134 Minigun and the M240 machine gun. It puts out 3000 lumens with an HID bulb.

The second contract award is $14.9m for the Visible Bright Light-III contract which includes an indefinite number of Surefire’s M620V Scout Light and the more compact M720V Raid weapon mounted lights. These both use the Vampire head which puts out visible and IR light by rotating the light’s bezel. The use of discrete LEDs gives much better output and runtime efficiency over a system that uses filters to produce IR light.

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